This is the starter of that petition. I appreciate you writing on the subject, but want to make clear that our group is not an ‘anti-plastics’ group as you suggest. We’re a nonprofit who studies the effects of plastic garbage in watersheds and the oceans, as well policy drivers on common sense solutions to plastic pollution. We advocate for reductions in plastic consumption, especially single-use plastics, which water bottles fall into the category there of— take a look at our website, you’ll get a much better sense of what we’re all about. Thanks.

So you Googled “cellulose based plastics” and got nothing? … nothing of value to you, I’m sure. There has already been a water bottle co. that used cellulose bottles and proved that it was inexpensive to do so actually. It was good water too, and Scouts Honor I can’t remember the name.

I’m not trying to argue whether or not corporate funding, or federal management, or whatever is better for the parks. It may be, sure. It could sure be improved upon. There are plenty of corporations who have displayed genuine interest and support for land and wild life preservation. I’m not against corporations or capitalism. But no one can deny that there are and always will be carelessness in industry. Although, you would probably be reluctant to admit that. Oh, and I’m also for the US Pipeline. You are a bit of a hot head there pal, and a bit prematurely disrespectful.

Petroleum has been linked to cancer in a shit load of studies. Period. Plastic water bottles and all sorts of other things are made of petroleum for the most part. Volume. Simple stuff really. Look, I know you think that somehow all the plastic of the world wind up in the landfills. And landfills are great too, I don’t want you to jump to another conclusion. Last time I checked the Grand Canyon didn’t have a landfill … or didn’t want to be one. I think that was more the point of the article.

You have accused me of a lot of things dude, including being from San Francisco. I would have to whoop your ass if we were in public. I see where you’re coming from dude, I just don’t think you see where all this is going.

As someone from New Orleans (with family peppered all along the gulf coast), I can assure you no LONG lasting effects from BP will outlast the legacy of levying the MS River! Additionally, as a land manager … I can attest to the LONG lasting effects of environmental illiterates (such as yourself) not understanding the need to reduce fuel loads through commercial harvesting, reducing stand density from (aghast) removing late- and mid-seral forests, improving watershed conditions by aggressive treatments, and protecting WUI.

But, I expect nothing less from someone who sits on the 49th floor of the TransAmerica building in San Francisco writing a check to the Sierra Club to ensure our environment isn’t tampered with while they drive home in a Mercedes SUV to their 25000 sq ft wood framed house with 6 air conditioners, redwood decks, gorging on shark-fin soup, with a bourgeoisie air about them they saved the environment from those no-good peasants that provide them the standard of living they so detest but can’t fathom sharing!

Grow up, “dude”! You clearly have no concept of the hypocrisy of this story and how it rightfully plays into the politics of deep-green stupidity!

And, gee … I looked and looked to your reference to cellulose … but couldn’t find it. Go figure. So, I’ll ask this … show me how “fine particulate” petro-based matter somehow ends up bio-magnifying to the point of creating chaos! I’ll admit it’s ugly … but it ain’t biologically dangerous … but it is to the boys/girls that sacrifice their lives for the sake of middle-eastern oil which wouldn’t happen if we tapped into the oil deposits this country has proven reserves to last the next 150 years!

And capitalism has transformed our landscape recently, just ask Exxon, BP, Martin County Corp. and plenty more.

Oh, and transporting glass into public lands or any other “wild” lands is somehow “better” for the environment? Dude … as you say … what are the legal implications of getting injured from stepping on glass, falling on glass; additionally, what about the wildlife impacts from glass? Simpleton thinking, “dude”!

Capitalism could totally transform our public land system. The federal government has done an ABYSMAL job of “managing” public lands. I challenge you to compare forest product land to federally managed land before and after catastrophic wildfire. You’ll find the corporately owned land unfettered and beneficially affected by low burning fire due to their profit driven ability to manage forests; whereas, millions of acres of federal land are burnt to mineral soil due to litigation created by environmental illiterates with emotional agendas.

You need to understand ecosystem function, dynamics, and throw in a little smidgeon of common sense before talking crazy union funded under-educated talking points!

Your thought process is just as reckless as most fundamentalist capitalists. I don’t like this administration just as much as the next (I’m sure), or the one before it for that matter, but why can’t this article be about what it’s actually about? This is not a political forum.

I praise Coca Cola for donating as much as they have actually no matter if the reason behind it is to preserve a market share. I love Coca Cola. They are an awesome icon of a company and I am proud they are USA. But I am ashamed of them at the same time. There are viable cellulose options. I mean c’mon, Coke and the Grand Canyon just sound awesome together.

Why doesn’t the writer delve deeper into explaining what the “carbon footprint” is regarding water bottles on public land? The deep green schizophrenics will only be happen when glass bubbles encapsulate public lands lending credence to their misunderstanding of the dynamic nature of ecosystems!

I visit the Grand Canyon and this summer will make sure I have PLENTY of plastic bottles behind my “carbon footprint”! I know picking up trash isn’t as productive – according to Obama – as handing out footstamps; however, someone will get a paycheck to do some actual work in this corrupt administration!